Saturday, February 9, 2013

Talking Points #3: Raby


when reading this my mind went back to the our first class discussion about Croteau, and the whole idea of consent. we (well most) whether we know it or not do not give our consent for these discourses to brain wash us. i say brain wash, because after all from these discourse is where we form our own “ideas”, “truths”, “reality” and such. i put these words in quotation marks because they don’t really exist in us, they were put there. maybe there is a reason, or maybe there is not.
some people might not want to discover these discourses and their roots, some want to stay in the dark and live happily ever after. maybe because once you discover the ins and outs of these discourses, it’s just too much work from there on, and you start to see everything in a different light. and you realize that everything you were ever tough is a lie.
“Steinberg concludes that ‘parents probably project their own discomfort about adolescence onto their children… as a way of avoiding facing the unrest they themselves feel about growing old”.
i totally agree with this quote and also think that parents fear that their children will do either the same things they did as adolescence or even worse. or it could also be that some parents wish they were still adolescence themselves and were doing the things that their children are out doing, and think to themselves: “if I was my child at this age, I would …. “ and therefore this might disturb them a bit and so they worry.

all these ideas about what or how an  adolescence should or would be acting like or experiencing, is another one of those constructed ideologies that media, society and or ourselves have constructed somehow from somewhere in our heads. many adolescence don’t even experience what its said to be the “adolescence experience”, they don’t realize it until after they have passed that stage in their lives. could this be because that is when they reach the point where everyone else telling them what they should be experiencing? and media and or society, etc, has fully taken over their brain at this point, and they “see” what everyone else was talking about?
(not sure if that makes any sense)

i find it funny, how many adults think of adolescence as the age to “rebel” and not “following rules”, when many adults themselves one might say are still in this stage. those adults are the more critical of what a “teenager or adolescence” character. the same can also be said for adolescence, they can act more mature and level headed than a lot of adults.

a question for the class might be:
do you think we ever cross the “adolescence” stage?
meaning what most people think of when they think of adolescence today.
or is “adult” just another word made up, so that we somehow feel superior to those little kids growing up? 



i chose this video because it gives a little information on puberty and the changes one as adolescence are suppose to go through.
but also because I believe most "adults" are still to move on from this stage.  

smile :)
kt

10 comments:

  1. I agree with your last paragraph. I think how you act just depends on how you are as a person, not really how old you are. A lot of adults are all over facebook and go out with friends and gossip, and do all those "teenage" things, while there are teenagers who would rather sit at home or work or do those "adult" or "mature" things. I've always been told I was "mature for my age". I don't try to be, I think that's just how I am. I don't think people change that dramatically over time and teenagers and adults shouldn't be expected to act that differently.

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    1. I think your right!
      Adults sometimes want to do teenange things but "try not to" because they are adults.
      I think if we didnt have these characteristics and stages then people would be more open and confortable to doing whatever it is that they want to do. Whether its considered an adults or a teenage thing.
      Then the real question is:
      who made these characteristics and stages up? and why or for what purpose?

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  2. i liked your part where you said that teenagers can be mature and level headed than a lot of adults.

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  3. Kenia- I think your connection to consent is really interesting. I wonder if you could flesh it out a bit more with the quotes from Raby after today's class?
    CS

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    1. Hey Chris,
      yes after class I actually understood Raby a little bit more.
      The consent idea I was talking about I think Raby touches on it when she says:
      "A discourse refers to a set of meaning, metaphors, representation, images, stories, statements, and so on that in some way together produce a particular version of events"

      This quote we also talked about it in class.

      Also its the same idea of what we've been talking about all along in class, where media shows us these things and with it its ideology, and it all depends on the message being sent forth that we then can conclude or make up what we think its our own ideas, but in reality it has been feed to us all along.

      During and after class I kept thinking about what Dr. Bogad mentioned which is a good way to understand ideology and that is:
      ideology = language and power
      I strongly believe this to be true, because language is power. this is the main reason why most cultures try to keep their own language and pass it down generations in order to keep that cultural power, even if they live in the United States.
      Language can define who you are, and also there is a lot to say about what language you use and how it is use, this can also empower someone greatly.

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  4. I agree with you about teenagers not knowing the full experience but my point to go along with your is that many adults as well as media don't allow these teenagers to become or voice their opinion so they don't get to experience it. I love you post

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    1. Right! because as adults we feel that we know it all and that because we know it all teenagers should do as we say not as they want. After all they don't know any better.

      Thank you!!!!

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  5. I completely agree with you post, and I really like you question about the word adult. Why do we need a word to describe an age group? I also wanted to let you know that I linked your post in my blog for this week because of your video :)

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